The word 'Cearmaid' comes from Old Irish and is probably a combination of 'ciar' (black) and 'madra' (dog), thus meaning a 'black dog.' 23. However, this isnt auditing who had it better and who had it worse!!! That is the most ridiculous thing Ive ever heard. Do you not believe that the Irish people suffered for centuries under British domination ? She was so angry, thats not what Jesus looks like, so I said how do you know,? Fourth, historically the highest amount of interethnic marriage between two ethnic groups post civil war are Irish and African. Reblogged this on familytreegirldotcom and commented: Yes, why were the Less valued Irish allowed to keep their last names, But Blacks were completely stripped of everything, even their identity. Are we interested in championing numbers or political views here? The term "Black Irish" has also been applied to the descendants of Irish emigrants who settled in the West Indies. Ive seen the pictures of long ago. These new mulatto slaves brought a higher price than Irish livestock and, likewise, enabled the settlers to save money rather than purchase new African slaves. Its meaning varies and such differences are contingent upon time and place. Black (surname) Black is a surname which can be of either English, Scottish, Irish or French origin. The most prominent O'Conors were the Connacht clan of O'Conor . It is commonly found in County Tipperary and neighbouring counties. The Irish language was nearly extinct and was only spoken in very remote parts of the country for a long period of time. Think about their rage The fighting irish especially 100 years ago you wouldnt have not one Irishman admitting they were ever slaves ( they would talk about it amongst themselves, but never with outsiders whom werent real irish. Famous OSullivans include actress Maureen OSullivan, actor Richard OSullivan, and singer Gilbert OSullivan. How did they enter said contract in the first place? Here is the thing though, when they hooked up with Africans to rebel, Bacons Rebellion, they struck a deal with the English colonists to become the slave patrols and plantation overseas. It is possible that the arrival of large numbers of Irish after the famine into America, Canada, Australia, and beyond resulted in their being labeled as "black" in that they escaped from this new kind of black death. What people seem to be missing is the point of contention that exists today. ("Defeat of the Spanish Armada", painted by Philip James de Loutherbourg). Moore 21. It should be titled How SOME Blacks Have Irish Names the Who, When, Where matters. Some say they came from the Spanish Armada. ^ this. Whether you think indentured servitude and slavery are the same is a matter of semantics, but it was on no way even close to the chattel slavery faced by blacks. if you dont believe it, then so be it, I want to believe it because I know the lady very well, that shared another ladies work for us, be kind to one another, because the good book says we are all related, because of Adam and Eve. The black people of today are not harmed by the slavery of decades ago any more than I (an Irish-American) or any other Irishmen are. At the time the Irish were indentured or enslaved or some similar term, the Irish were not yet categorized as white but as just Irish. Read How the Irish became white. Then also read The Invention of the White Race., Good information and horrible pass but good to know and tell others about it, This is absolutely fascinating. All Caucasians are Edomites. Here are the top 100 Irish surnames you're bound to experience at least once in your life! This fact is recorded in ancient China, Egypt and Mesopotamia. The intention of this was to divulge their cultural stance and tell of their intentions to bring force and darkness upon Ireland. Irish were indentured servants,which lasted 7 years. The term Black Irish has been in circulation for centuries, with Irish whiskeys such as Mariah Careys Black Irish cream liqueur and Northern Ireland-based Darker Still Spirits Company Black Irish Whiskey even naming their products after the term. The theory that the "Black Irish" are descendants of any small foreign group that integrated with the Irish and survived is unlikely. Children of slaves were themselves slaves, which increased the size of the masters free workforce. Baltimore was an english town, the pirates were directed to it by an Irishman (Hackett), and the english inhabitants were shipped off to North Africa. Yes, the Irish were treated horribly by the English, but they were not sold as slaves, per se, to the West Indies. It was not until the late 18th century that physical traits alone was being shopped around as an identifier of race, and much later till that idea would even flirt with the consciousness of the mainstream. The Healy familiar is a wonderful exemplar. The Kelley family name was found in the USA, the UK, Canada, and Scotland between 1840 and 1920. Kennedy 17. Who were you responding to? Count DanielOMahonywas a general in the Irish Brigade and is one of the most famous people with the surname OMahoney. Otherwise, I agree there needs to be some factual citations presented with the article. Physical race traits such as skin color were used much later as a justification for slavery, not a motivation to start it. 8. Doyle 13. The term is commonly used to describe people of Irish origin who have dark features, black hair, a dark complexion and dark eyes. The mass exodus from Ireland has been a result of famine, war, and conflict throughout Irelands history. This is not a racial issue; it is humanitarian issue! It became a first name in the nineteenth century, and was used in Ireland to anglicise Duald, Dubhdaleithe (black man of the two sides), and Dubhdara. Famous Fitzgeralds include singer Ella Fitzgerald and writer F. Scott Fizgerald. Origin: Irish; Meaning: "dark, black" Description: Keir is a single-syllable name that packs a lot of punch, might suggest -- thanks to its similarity to the word . Carran A spelling variant of Curran, this Irish surname is an anglicized form of ' Corraidhin' referring to 'descendant of Corraidhin.' The word Corraidhin is derived from 'Corradh' which means 'little spear.' What do we see here? Irish slavery is *not* a myth, nor is it a lie. In the middle east a milder form of it still exists. Black Surname Meaning Black is a Scottish surname primarily. But it seems that your fellow Irish forgot both about the atrocities done to them and working side by side with African slaves. I will admit, some of this is said by a very very very small percentage of the real irish population worldwide, they see it as being weak !!!! Id gladly accept a Cajun than a damn IRISH redneck!!!!!!! Slavery is age old and always horrific. Why arent those of Irish slavery equally claiming discrimination or expecting reparations? The Irish rioted against the draft board in the 19th century, because war is horrible, and they were being forced into something that had nothing to do with. Think about this; slavery is a serious business and slaves are property like cattle, horses, sheep etc. Located off the western shores of Great Britain, the small island nation packs quite a punch when it comes to its heritage. 9. As far as Irish slaves being treated worse than African slaves, not true. Did you have some knowledge of your name already? These are not the same. On December 21, 1988 Jesse Jackson and a group of other black "leaders" officialy declared their support for the term 'African American'. Famous ONeills include Eugene ONeill, who was the only American playwright to ever receive the Nobel Prize for Literature. The Scots Irish, also known as Scotch Irish (especially in USA) or Ulster Scots (especially in Northern Ireland), are an ethnic group found in the province of Ulster in the north of Ireland Genealogy. If you have not already, you need to do some actual genealogical research on your family to see if you are indeed genetically Irish and if so, if that occurred due to your ancestors being enslaved by an Irish family or the Scots-Irish (they both come up on DNA tests as Irish). Why would you even mention those in the same breath? If it were slavery, as the Africans suffered, it would have been called slavery. You did not do it, I did not do it, you did not go through it, and I did not go through it, you are shaped more by the world around you now, and I am shaped more by the world around me now. Famous people with the surname OBrien include comedian Conan OBrien, actor Dylan OBrien, and guitarist Pat OBrien. The most Blake families were found in USA in 1880. Only a few blacks were able to do this. The Table shown here gives a listing of the 100 most commonly names found in Ireland and their meanings. Africans sold Israelites. As a lay person, its hard to know who to believe. Musician and YouTube personality Charlie McDonnell is one of the most well-known McDonnells. Youll find that most often the enslaved are identified by age and gender only. Jim Crow laws where formulated to keep Blacks in their place, not the Irish. Maybe its time we stop fighting with each other and start learning from each other? The mental gymnastics required to equate having Irish last names and black Americans with the Irish having been slaves right along side us is astounding. Were revealing where the term comes from and who exactly the term is referring to. This may have some truth but how does this compare with Jim Crow and the continued racism experienced by Blacks in 2015? I never heard of this before, yes, of course, Ive heard of the indentured servant history, but not the actual brutal enslavement of the Irish people. However, a whopping 50 to 80 million people around the globe are thought to share in Irish ancestry. Burke Irish indentured servants were not emancipated. Another name, OGallchobhair, which is the Irish version of the popular name Gallagher, means foreign help. Oh, and by the way, my Irish ancestors fought for the North at Gettysburg, for three hundred dollars and a ticket out of Ireland. Second, there was intermarriage in the caribbean with descendents from the cromwellian slave trade of the Irish and African slaves. I would love to know who you are to me , I want to know my roots from the mother of all mothers Africa .The Carrolls missing abd forgotten children.. Wrong. Take their bone head, broad cranium, drunken, red neck selves and lie to somebody else. But I digress; apparently what Chloes real point is by this previous statement is that, when/if Whites talk about how a part of their race was oppressed and enslaved at one point in history that it somehow diminishes and lessens the Blacks slave history and only serves to to make Whites feel better about them-selves. Did they have a say in being sold off to a new master? Theres no question that the Irish werent treated very well. So ran another search on that and got this: http://www.libraryireland.com/names/od/o-dubhdaleithe.php.